Private Functions on Public Reserves - Comments
  • Thank you for your letter dated 14th April 2015 requesting comments/submissions on this above item.

    The Currarong Progress Association has advised its members of this draft review and sort community comments from them and other community members via our notice board which has had your above letter on display.

    The Progress Association submits that;

    • the policy needs to recognise that community groups such as ours hold various events during the year on Council reserves, in particular Dolphin Reserve Currarong, where the expected numbers of participants will vary with the event. For example our yearly xmas bbq&band night. This event usually runs for about 3 hours in total from 5.30pm to 8.30pm just prior to xmas each year. Attending numbers could be from 50 to 150+ persons. This event, which has been held continuously for the past 6 years and before that for several other years is an institution. This and other community events, held/organised by volunteers for the benefit of the community, need to be allowed to continue in local Reserves under any new policy on the above item without a control on attending numbers. We have had no indication from our community that events such as these has caused a need to limit them.
    • the idea of having wedding ceremonies or similar type functions in Reserves for up to 50 persons in smaller Shoalhaven Reserves is generally accepted given the proximity of houses to foreshore & other areas. The listed controls for these events appear satisfactory.
    • past experiences with some, as defined in the policy, large private as opposed to community events in Currarong Reserves enforces the need for some limitations on these in smaller Reserves.
    • this should not be seen as a detriment to those wishing to have these type of functions in ours or similar areas. Indeed there are three areas; Zacs Café/General Store; the Currarong Progress Hall and the Currarong Bowling and Recreation Club which provide a function for this purpose.
    • there is a requirement for Ranger staff monitoring of events in some cases which without has probably led to the current draft review.
    • some or all of the proposed controls for each type of event as detailed in the policy will be exceeded by private users without this monitoring.
    • disturbances reported by community members generally take a long time to be resolved.

    In conclusion we will continue to support private events that allow participants to enjoy our unique beach and reserve areas and generate income for local house and shop owners. In determining what type of private functions/events that can occur in its Reserves, Council also needs to recognise the amenity of local residents and the regularity of holding such events in its smaller village areas.

  • the policy needs to recognise that community groups such as ours hold various events during the year on Council reserves, in particular Dolphin Reserve Currarong, where the expected numbers of participants will vary with the event. For example our yearly xmas bbq&band night. This event usually runs for about 3 hours in total from 5.30pm to 8.30pm just prior to xmas each year. Attending numbers could be from 50 to 150+ persons. This event, which has been held continuously for the past 6 years and before that for several other years is an institution. This and other community events, held/organised by volunteers for the benefit of the community, need to be allowed to continue in local Reserves under any new policy on the above item without a control on attending numbers. We have had no indication from our community that events such as these has caused a need to limit them. the idea of having wedding ceremonies or similar type functions in Reserves for up to 50 persons in smaller Shoalhaven Reserves is generally accepted given the proximity of houses to foreshore & other areas. The listed controls for these events appear satisfactory. past experiences with some, as defined in the policy, large private as opposed to community events in Currarong Reserves enforces the need for some limitations on these in smaller Reserves. this should not be seen as a detriment to those wishing to have these type of functions in ours or similar areas. Indeed there are three areas; Zacs Café/General Store; the Currarong Progress Hall and the Currarong Bowling and Recreation Club which provide a function for this purpose. there is a requirement for Ranger staff monitoring of events in some cases which without has probably led to the current draft review. some or all of the proposed controls for each type of event as detailed in the policy will be exceeded by private users without this monitoring. disturbances reported by community members generally take a long time to be resolved. In conclusion we will continue to support private events that allow participants to enjoy our unique beach and reserve areas and generate income for local house and shop owners. In determining what type of private functions/events that can occur in its Reserves, Council also needs to recognise the amenity of local residents and the regularity of holding such events in its smaller village areas.

  • Great to see this draft policy on the use of public reserves. I am very much in favour of the restrictions outlined although I feel that the policy could be improved by the addition of a few extra conditions. I feel that the use and enjoyment of public reserves by private individuals and small groups has been negatively impacted due to the sites being used for functions (e.g. weddings). I am particularly concerned when they are being used as part of a profit making enterprise. The Shoalhaven attracts many tourists who like to use our waterways. Many come to enjoy the tranquillity of the area. Residents of the Shoalhaven like to incorporate the public reserves in their family and social lives. Unfortunately these uses are restricted when functions are held on public reserves, beaches or other public places. If venues are to be made available for business use, the council should ensure that the rate payers of the Shoalhaven are fairly compensated. The fees set out in the draft proposal are inadequate in my opinion. Businesses normally have to provide their own premises. When a business is involved in holding functions, I believe higher fees should apply to them than to non-profit making uses. Where businesses seek to use public land on an ongoing basis, it may be time for them to invest in their own location. As much as I understand that people may wish to hold a wedding ceremony on or near a beach, this should not be allowed at all at small public reserves like Callala. Particularly so close to people's homes. The buffer zone for functions should include setting distance restrictions from residential property and larger functions should have greater buffer zones. At times when a wedding is being held, it is inconceivable to take my children to the park and use the playground equipment. It feels intrusive to the wedding and the children cannot be allowed to make noise or feel free to run around which is one of the reasons it is good to go to a public reserve. I also find it difficult to go due to car parking problems. My family likes to windsurf and need to take our equipment to the beach. If we cannot access the car park we cannot access the water. In addition, guests of functions seem to be quite selfish and feel that because they are having a function they deserve to have exclusive use of the site. They are not considerate of the public and their behaviour is often unacceptable for a public place. While I understand we all have to share, surely there should be some limit to the number of times in a month when the reserves are being used in this way. When can families hold a small birthday party or family function? I can't understand why functions should ever be held after dark. If the functions are being held at the public reserve because of the beauty of the area, surely once the sun goes down this aspect is no longer applicable and the function should move to an appropriate function centre or restaurant. I would think that the council should ensure that wedding receptions which follow a ceremony should never be held at small public reserves near residences. In addition, organisers of functions should be reminded that they should also not ever be held in short term rental properties. When functions are booked, it would be a good time to ensure organisers are aware of the Shoalhaven's policy discussed in the ShortTerm- Holiday Rentals in Residential Areas Advisory Guidelines which discuss advising tenants not to have functions and parties or allow overcrowding of properties. I think it would be useful to add to the "Private Function on Public Reserves Policy" a requirement to erect a sign on site listing the name and mobile phone number of the function organiser so any member of the public can advise any issue arising that needs their attention while the function is in progress to avoid having to locate the person responsible during a function as this may result in a confrontation. Bookings should be listed on the council website so that other potential users of the sites can avoid the area and there should be a minimum of 6 weeks notice of a function required so that the public can organise their own use of the reserves. Different rules should apply to different sites depending on their size and whether they are close to residences and how busy the reserve is on the weekend (e.g. boat ramps are often busy with boats). There should be no alcohol consumed, no PA and shorter duration of functions at smaller reserves. Some locations should have a monthly limit which takes into account the impact on other users of the reserve. It is unfair to turn a public place into a place of business every weekend during wedding season. Businesses related to weddings have an unfair advantage over businesses which have to pay for their premises and this advantage is at the detriment of the amenity of residents. The wedding season is very long and the disruption continues for a great part of the year. Children need to study for exams and do assignments during the wedding season because it overlaps with school time. I also don't understand why visitors to the Shoalhaven should have more rights than residents. Residents spend more in the area than visitors. Wedding guests are also not the only visitors to the area. Giving them rights to be rowdy and take over public reserves may mean that we lose those visitors who come to get away from the city and enjoy the tranquillity the Shoalhaven has to offer. Multiple functions by the same organiser on the same day should be restricted to very few locations. If the Shoalhaven really wants to encourage weddings and take advantage of this industry, perhaps it is time to develop specific appropriate and suitable areas for this purpose away from residential areas and areas of normal public use and then charge appropriately to make a profit to cover the provision of amenities supplied instead of these expenditures being a burden on the Shoalhaven rate payers.

  • I am writing this submission to put my point of view across in relation to the draft policy of function on public reserves in the Shoalhaven Council. I am currently planning a wedding for next year and was extremely saddened to hear that I was not allowed to apply for a wedding ceremony as the Shoalhaven Council was planning on not allowing functions on Hyams Beach, amongst others. I am from Sydney and have specifically planned a wedding down in the South Coast for the amazing beaches and scenery around. I have guests coming from overseas and have always wanted a beach wedding and Hyams Beach was perfect to showcase this. I understand that residents would not be happy with the noise and the use of the carpark by wedding parties and I do agree that it could become a nuisance. However I assume that these are for receptions taking place on the Public Reserves in particular which is why I would propose maybe time limits or specific periods where private functions can be booked or permitted. Wedding ceremonies, for example, are usually short, quiet and do not take up that much space. I believe Wedding Ceremonies should be exempted from this policy as it is a good balance between those who want to use the naturally beautiful public reserves and of course the residents who live there and deal with the everyday. Perhaps not permitting private functions, on Hyams Beach for example, after 6 should be considered as there would be a significant reduction in noise pollution for the residents. I understand that the tourism in Shoalhaven is largely driven by Sydney siders wanting to escape from the hustle and bustle and to enjoy the scenic coastal towns within Shoalhaven. This tourism contributes to a fair amount of revenue for the council I presume and I believe that allowing this policy to go through would be detrimental to the tourism. I chose Hyams Beach due to its proximity to Sydney and the amazing beauty it has to offer. When I look up Hyams Beach, you see pictures of weddings on it and it looks stunning. I'm sure there are plenty of other people who are in the same position as my partner and I and would be very saddened to hear that private function are no longer allowed in these beautiful Public Reserves. I really do hope you understand and consider these points in your assessment of this draft policy and I really do hope the outcome of such policy is a positive one.

  • Please find my comments following on the Draft Private Functions on Public Reserves Policy. Please note I have restricted my comments to Currarong.

    I was pleased to see that the above policy will not permit medium and large functions in any public reserve in Currarong as I believe these public spaces are inappropriate for this type of activity. I was also pleased to see that public address systems will not be permitted for small functions as I find their use invasive and offensive. I was bike riding around Currarong recently and could clearly hear a PA system from a wedding near the rock pool from the top of the water tank track. On another occasion I could hear a PA system being played at Abraham's Bosom Beach from as far away as Plutus reef on the other side of Currarong.

    I support the general provisions of the policy but wonder how they can be enforced particularly in relation to requirements that function areas be located a minimum of 25 metres from playgrounds etc. I imagine users will just ignore these provisions and extend across the reserves particularly where the spaces are small eg the thin strip of public space near the rock pool at Currarong. In areas such as this I believe the maximum number of 50 is too great.

  • Im writing on behalf of the local Buisness Chamber and all buisness in our village,We need the wedding industry to continue in our village as it has done up untill 6 mnths ago when it was stopped by locals &Council. The new draft is not far off being acceptable, the main issue we have is the 25 mtr buffer zone.. The reserve at callala Bay where nearly all wedding parties will want there ceromony held is only 20 mtrs wide from property boundarys to tree line on beach.. If this proposal goes ahead with the 25 mtr Zone it will all but destroy our local wedding expeirence,s for our village!!It needs to be reduced to 5-10 mtrs for that reserve??We the buisness chamber have worked hard with the local community centre team to organise the local hall on Emmet St for receptions ,BUT they will want too have a ceremony by the waters Edge.PLease consider how important the weddings are to a small village that strugles financialy 9 mnths off the year..I can get proof off the money that the whole wedding packages bring too our shoips.

  • I strongly support the draft review. Congratulation! I think it addresses concerns that I as a Callala resident had, about restrictions to public access, noise, duration, PA systems, neighbourhood disturbance, proximity to playgrounds, reserves blocked off, starting and finishing times and most certainly the set up pack up times.

    Clearly a reasonable and intelligent person has realised that the location of the Callala reserve directly near houses makes it an inappropriate venue.

  • We note that over the past 4 years there is a growing problem with the lawless behaviour of those visiting the carpark and reserve, especially at night. We believe the reason the problem has escalated is there are very few police around to monitor night time activity in the reserve.

    Council works in May 2014 included a flush-coat seal upon the dirt roadway that had previously been lobbied for, for many years by locals and the Cudmirrah Berrara Swanhaven Progress Association. After only one year the surface of the flush-coat has already been severely compromised and damaged due to the illegal and dangerous driving activities of those persons that congregate at night at Dyball Reserve. We are regularly exposed to loud drunken gatherings, the screaming sound of car tyres, revving of car engines and also un-muffled trail bike engines, open fires which are frequently left unchecked, rubbish strewn throughout the reserve and left to local residents to clean up later. At the times when we have approached the young people to address our concerns, especially with regard to fires being lit in windy conditions, we have been met with abuse and aggression. In January we had a trespasser who wandered into our property with a gun necessitating us to dial 000 Police Emergency. Such is the growing problem that we fear there will be a major incident at Dyball Reserve because there is such little police intervention.

    It would be most helpful if advance notice of any proposed bookings could be communicated to the local community group, Cudmirrah Berrara Swanhaven Progress Association.

    To that end we respectfully request that any proposed functions approved at Dyball Reserve:

    • Be restricted to daylight hours as anonymity of darkness allows people to conduct activities unmonitored and our concern is the destruction of this wonderful family amenity.
    • That specific rulings be made with regard to noise, alcohol/drunken behaviour, and rubbish as nearby residents are already impacted as cited above.
    • That such events occur outside peak tourist times of the year.

    Such is the problem with late night antics at our reserve and the absence of a police presence available in our area to monitor the unlawful activities, we would be very pleased if Dyball Reserve could be closed to vehicular traffic from sunset to sunrise.

  • I hereby submit my questions in relation to the draft policy and would appreciate your responses.

    I am concerned about apparent inconsistencies in this draft policy such as below where the answer to management of functions is to have them at specific locations.

    Wedding receptions
    An ongoing issue with Council approving wedding receptions (not ceremonies) is how it ensures that a function abides by its conditions and has a minimal impact on the amenity of a public reserve and/or the surrounding neighbours. This is complicated by the limited resources that by both Council and the police can provide if there are compliance issues with such a function which generally occurs at night and on a weekend. Upon considering the Shoalhaven context, available resources and the opportunity to facilitate wedding receptions, specific sites are identified in the revised Policy. (Policy and Resources Committee-10 March 2015 Page 23)

    Unfortunately I note that as per below, "small" functions do not need to be at the specific locations. These "small" functions appear to be possible anywhere within the LGA.

    However, the substantial change in the draft Policy is its defined hierarchy of function types and requirements, as listed below:

    1. Small Functions (no booking application required)
    2. Medium Functions (application needed to book a Council nominated location - see Appendix A of Policy)
    3. Large Functions (application needed to book a Council nominated location - see Appendix B of Policy)" (Policy and Resources Committee-10 March 2015 Page 25)

    Can small functions be held at any location in the LGA without approval or control?
    The fundamental problem experienced by residents to functions is when the effect of alcohol takes over, offensive noise and/or behaviour begins and the function attendees decide not to stop at the required time. In the Wedding Receptions section above is the statement "This is complicated by the limited resources that by both Council and the police can provide if there are compliance issues with such a function which generally occurs at night and on a weekend".

    In the past NO Council resources (staff) would respond to ANY complaints about non compliances. Indeed the Council Rangers were told to specifically not get involved in rectifying any non-compliances. So essentially Council thinks promotion of weddings and functions in the public reserves of the Shoalhaven LGA is economically beneficial but the Council has not in the past seen fit to provide any resources to curb the problems caused by these functions that Council has generated.

    I have experienced functions having offensive noise and behaviour and going until 4 00 am Sunday morning, with no Council help being made available. My family has been unable to get to sleep through these functions whilst all of you Councillors and staff have had a great and quiet Saturday night.

    At Currarong this year there have been several weddings in the park followed by receptions in Zac's restaurant. Zac's management has contained the noise and controlled the party and at 10 00 pm stopped the function. The nearby residents are quite satisfied with this situation as they know the control is there. This is indeed a good model for functions.

    In this draft policy there is no discussion of any Council resources actively managing any functions in public reserves, even when non compliances with your terms and conditions occur.

    To market, promote and approve public reserve functions Council staff must be made available to respond to complaints from residents whenever they occur and to attend the function and manage or if necessary stop the function which after all has been agreed to by Council in its policy. Otherwise as per the past functions, local residents will be subjected to negative environmental impacts by your policy.

    As a result of Council positively encouraging functions in public reserves:

    1. Will Council accept its social responsibility that if it approves functions in public reserves it must manage and control the functions so that they are not detrimental to the residents' quiet enjoyment of their suburb?
    2. Will Council actively provide Council staff to attend, manage and
    3. control public reserve functions whether small, medium or large and in particular when non-compliances occur?
    4. If the answer to question 2 is no, then will Council insist on all functions being held in approved function centres or restaurants (where the economic benefits will probably be greater to the LGA)?

      Policy & Resources Committee 10 March 2015 - Item 6 Attachment B
      It was considered that functions with less than 20 people generally have minimal impact on public reserves, partly because they are conducted in a short timeframe and have minimal set up requirements, yet at this point they still require substantial Council resources to process application forms, take telephone enquires etc. It was considered that functions of between 20-50 people generally have more impact on a public reserve, and require closer consideration in relation to conditions that should apply to such functions. Such impacts include provision of private infrastructure (such as marquees, PA systems), amenity issues (such as noise, car parking) and environmental issues (such as waste)."

    5. Why contrary to the independent consultant's recommendation has Council changed the threshold for no notifications upwards from 20 to 50 people?
    6. Will Council reinstate the independent consultant's recommendation of only allowing parties of less than 20 people to not get Council approval?

      Small Function
      Additional Provisions for Weddings:
      The organiser conducts a wedding ceremony only on the public reserve, with a wedding reception being held at a separate venue."

    7. Could you please explain what this additional provision means?
    8. Are there any conditions placed upon the reception held at a separate venue?
    9. Will Council require notification of the location of the separate venue?
      Policy & Resources Committee 10 March 2015 - Item 6 Attachment B
      Further, a 'buffer' to the infrastructure on public reserves that is for the enjoyment of all members of the public was discussed and supported. The 'buffer' could be listed in the terms and conditions of a permit to ensure that private functions do not impede on the use of such infrastructure by all members of the public, whilst still being accessible to people at any private function. Such infrastructure included: amenities buildings, playground equipment, car parking, pathways etc.
      b) Function areas must be located a minimum of 25 metres from playgrounds, amenities building and private residential boundaries. The function must not also block access to other public facilities such pathways and car parks.
    10. Having a buffer is very useful for not obstructing the use of infrastructure but it is also useful to mitigate the impact of noise generated from a function. I consider 25m to be too close for functions to residential properties. Will Council consider a larger buffer of at the least 50m?
    11. Will nearby neighbours be notified of functions in advance, even small functions?
      In many other Council areas for all functions "Organiser must have Public Liability insurance". The previous Shoalhaven reserves policy required insurance.
    12. why has this insurance requirement been downgraded to apply to only large functions?
    13. Does the lack of insurance cause Council or other park users to be liable if any accidents occur?
      4.1 General Provisions
      h) Service of any alcohol (where permitted - noting that some reserves in the Shoalhaven are declared as Alcohol Free Zones) will be carried out by a person(s) with a valid RSA accreditation. Police must also be notified of any function serving alcohol
      This condition has not been required previously and is very important to be adhered to. I have observed functions which have had alcohol provided with no control as in guests helping themselves to drinks.
    14. Will Council staff attend functions to ensure there is a RSA qualified person responsible for alcohol distribution in accordance with provision (h)?
      Addendum Development Committee-4 November 2014 Page 1
      RECOMMENDED that in accordance with the Committee's delegated authority from Council that: a) Council's current application form relating to the booking of reserves for wedding receptions be amended to include the following: i) The need for the hirer to provide licenced security with details to be provided prior to the event; ……….
      b) Council's current application form relating to the use of reserves for weddings (no reception) be amended to require the user to provide details on where the associated reception is to be held;
    15. Previously no Council staff was attending functions to control them. The Council staff recommended in November 2014 that licenced security should be provided to manage the function. Will Council include the need to have security personnel as a requirement if no Council staff will attend functions?
    16. Will Council require a function to nominate the location of its reception if it is not in the public reserve?
      Policy and Resources Committee-9 December 2014 Page 30
      Other areas requiring further investigation include:
      Consider strategies/policy to enable Council's ability to enforce compliance in relation to the booking of a reserve and in relation to unapproved "turn-ups"
    17. Has Council investigated this point and formulated a strategy or policy for enforcing compliance?
    18. If so could you provide a copy of this policy?

    I look forward to receiving your answers to my questions and request that this submission be included for Councillors' consideration in evaluating this draft policy

  • Roughly 8 years ago I approached council with my own small statistics of the tourism potential of weddings and since then I have been pleased to see council has seized this and has used what I presume is our rates money to invest in a dedicated wedding tourism website to make the Shoalhaven more accessible to out of town clients but am now confused by this large investment and the proposal to limit the weddings allowed. I feel by strictly limiting wedding ceremony sites for numbers over 50 you will just have an increased number of couples not booking with council which will deregulate the outdoor wedding industry which will add to the problems that has caused local residents to call for changes to the current booking system. Our business has always advised our clients that their ceremony area be booked with council and we have always adhered to the rules and regulations stipulated, plus maintained our own high standards and insurance to ensure the environment is left the same or cleaner than when we started and local community is not adversely affected, if the current proposal was to go through unchanged and I was still to adhere to advise clients to book it would severely compromise my business, which as a small, seasonal business I cannot afford. I also understand that council is offering to set up ceremony sites for weddings and I am concerned if wedding ceremony sites are limited that council will be in the position to prioritize their own bookings, again this would severely comprise my business. I am just one of many local residents of the small coastal communities that rely on weddings and the tourism they bring for their livelihoods and I am concerned that the consultation process for a proposal that will affect so many local small businesses has been missed or lack luster at best, perhaps implementing a meeting with a range of industry stakeholders would provide some insight into how changes can be put in place to lessen the affects to their businesses and industries. I would welcome an opportunity to discuss options to create a happy medium that works for all concerned and I would love the opportunity to discuss further locations and strategies to achieve this.
  • As a local Marriage Celebrant in the Milton Ulladulla area I am very concerned about the limited available locations for marriage ceremonies over 50 people to be held in my area. The majority of my business comes from out of town (Canberra, Sydney and various locations inland NSW) who come to this area specifically to get married on the beach. They bring with them guests in the hundreds all of which stay in the area spending their money in local businesses particularly in the accommodation, hospitality and retail industries. My fear is that not having the option of getting married on the beach and by limiting the locations available to get married therefore limiting the number of weddings in the area on any particular day will severely impact the number of visitors coming to the lower Shoalhaven area. I have been the celebrant for over 60 weddings in the Milton Ulladulla area over the last 3 years and a large proportion of those weddings were on the beach or other reserves not mentioned in the draft policies appendix. Only a very small minority of those weddings would have had less than 50 people in attendance. In my experience most wedding parties consist of between 60 to 100 people and therefore the draft policy will, in my opinion rule out most people seeking to have a wedding ceremony on the beach or close to it (apart from the allocated areas). I'm very worried about how this new policy will affect not just mine but a large number of local business in the area. I would love the opportunity to discuss this policy further.

  • We have had a number of private functions on council land at both Golfies and Edith Tynan Park on Riverdale Ave Mollymook. The recent Night surfing competition and two wedding receptions (both large marquees ) set up in Edith T park (early 2014 and October 2013).

    On each occasion loud late night music and alcohol consumption have taken place. For example, the police were called and put an end to the thumping music from the nite surf carnival 'celebrations' eventually at 1.45am!

    I believe from my enquires to council on each of the above events, that there were no permits issued from council.

    I think council in their plan need to:

    • Sign post and advertise the need for such groups to apply to council for consideration of such. Fines clearly defined for not applying.
    • Council need to be specific in regards to noise/music and drunken behavior.
    • Events such as the above need sureties/deposits/insurance to encourage such events to comply with finishing times and noise levels in regard to local residents.
    • That officers from council ensure that these requirements are being adhered to and that these costs are incorporated in the permit along with surety deposits.
    • And if private functions avoid going thru council regarding permits then they need to be fined substantially.

    Clearly something has to be done, so that local residents don't bear the brunt of the ad hock system at present.

  • This correspondence serves as a submission to the draft policy for Private Functions on Public Reserves;

    My objections listed;

    1. (c) Bookings for functions will be accepted only outside of peak tourism periods.
      People do not stop getting married during peak tourism periods, in fact in the Shoalhaven which is a holiday destination they increase. People choose the date and location they plan to marry due to a wide variety of reasons but one of the main reasons is because it is the date and location upon which the became engaged. A lot of people get engaged on a romantic weekend away in the Shoalhaven over peak tourism periods, and then plan to marry in the same location 12 months later.
    2. (d) Reserve bookings can be approved between the following hours.
      Some people wish to be married at dawn on the beach watching the dolphins, or at midnight on a full moon under the big fig tree at Burrill lake. They should be able to book these locations to put their minds at ease that they will not be asked to move on by the ranger or have a dispute with another party who has the same idea on the same night. Booking should be able to be made for any hour.
    3. (I) Multiple ceremonies that are facilitated by a wedding planner or celebrant in the same location and on the same day are not permitted.
      I am unsure why this provision has been included in the policy the same celebrant may have three weddings booked in the same location on the same day, one 6am, one at 2pm and one at 5pm. This is a restriction of trade. How is Council intending to police this restriction?
    4. Small Functions.
      • A couple holding a small wedding or naming ceremony should still be able to book the location. Otherwise there may be a chance of two or more ceremonies requiring the location on any one day.
      • If having a wedding of 40 people, 10 chairs may not be adequate especially when the wedding is for an elderly couple .
      • A wedding for a smaller group (under 50) on the beach or in a park may still require a PA system for microphones and music.
    5. Medium Functions & Large Functions
      The reserve locations listed are not adequate. Applications should be accepted for all public reserves and beaches in the Shoalhaven not just the ones listed. As far as I can see from the policy there is no beach location listed in the Ulladulla/Mollymook area. The only area marked is at the end of the carpark in the grassed area at Mollymook . This will have a detrimental affect on the wedding tourism industry in our area. It will stop majority of destination weddings which in turn will effect motels, restaurants and reception venues.

    I am a Marriage Celebrant currently working in the Shoalhaven and beyond. Majority of my weddings and other ceremonies are carried out on our beautiful beaches and public reserves. People travel from far and wide to be married in the Shoalhaven due to our natural resources and it will be disadvantageous to our tourism trade if they are unable to do this. Please give further careful consideration to this policy and to the effect it will have on the tourism trade in our local commun ity.

  • I am writing in regards to the Draft policy on Private Functions on Public Reserves specifically applying to Marriage Ceremonies in the Mollymook, Ulladulla area. As a marriage celebrant I conduct a large number of wedding ceremonies in this area, the majority of which are on public beaches. I have noticed in the draft that there are no longer any beach locations in this area allocated for wedding ceremonies.
    I am really confused as the only sites allocated in the draft are; Mollymook Beach reserve (on the grass) and the Rotary Park in Ulladulla. Does this mean that there will be no option whatsoever for people to get married on the sand in the Mollymook/Ulladulla area at all or any other reserves? What about Dolphin Point, Burrill Lake, Bawley Point, Narrawallee?
    I am seriously concerned about the affect this will have on my business not to mention the flow on affects for many other businesses (Accommodation, hospitality, retail) in this area. People come from all over NSW to get married here on the beach. They all bring with them hundreds of guests who spend their money in the Shoalhaven. If their only ceremony location options are designated to two parks why would they bother. Availability will also be extremely limited given that there are often 10 or more weddings occuring on the same day in the area during the busiest months of wedding season.
    I am also confused about General Provisions 4.1 section I) where it states that multiple ceremonies that are facilitated by a wedding planner or celebrant in the same location on the same day are not permitted. Why is that?
    Given that wedding locations are now limited to two public places it is highly likely that multiple weddings will be held in those locations on the same day. I'm not sure why I would have to turn down a booking due to this clause? I am not the person reserving the location, I am simply there to provide a service to the person who is booking the location.
    There are so many wonderful locations for ceremonies in the Shoalhaven, particularly here in the Mollymook/Ulladulla area.
    I understand why some restrictions need to be put in place, but I do think that the current draft is quite extreme and I would love the opportunity to discuss this matter further if at all possible.

  • the weddings on reserve are fine but the receptions around private houses must be a nightmare weekend after weekend.would you want a party next to your house every weekend?

  • I am writing to object to the Draft proposals which will restrict where functions and ceremonies would be allowed to take place. Of particular concern is the closure of many beaches that have previously been available. I believe that parks and beaches are there to be enjoyed and utilised by the public. The council has had in place for many years rules and regulations to accommodate special occasions. To my knowledge, none of these ceremonies or special occasions have caused any distress or been detrimental to the wider public. We have many beautiful location throughout the shire that are public spaces and we should be able to take advantage of those locations for special occasions. I would strongly urge you to keep existing locations available for all to enjoy. Please acknowledge receipt of this objection via response to the above email address.

  • APPLICATION OF ESD PRINCIPLES" is Item 6 in Council's pdf Policy Number: POL12/32, but "ESD" is not defined in the document.

  • Noise constraints should be included in the policy. Suggest DA trigger for any amplified entertainment.
    The frequency of events at the same location should be carefully managed to protect the amenity of the surrounding residents.

  • Submission regarding Draft Private Functions on Public Reserves Policy
    To whom it may concern,
    Functions in the form of wedding ceremonies and wedding functions have been a disturbing issue for almost a year now. This draft policy addresses the key issues that have been a concern; the many sleepless nights for my family and a number of abusive encounters with wedding guests towards myself and my children because the wedding party want exclusive use of public reserves.
    It is essential that the points below remain in the Policy and are enforced by Council for weddings in reserves in the Shoalhaven.
    " The 25 m buffer zone from residential properties, playgrounds and amenities is key in restoring the amenity of the area and to allow ALL users of public reserves to be catered for.
    " Differentiating between small, medium and large weddings is essential to ensure minimum impact on residents and tourists.
    " Recognition by Council of the increase use of public reserves has been acknowledged through the limit of bookings to outside peak tourism periods
    " Council has abided by necessary legislation by identifying areas for medium and large functions and making it clear for wedding bookings where they can hold a wedding and taking a bond from users to ensure the Policy is abided by.
    " The limit to any infrastructure used for small weddings is key to minimizing the impact on reserves and allowing others users of the reserve as well as keeping the wedding ceremony to minimum.
    Areas that require clarity in the Policy include;
    - how will Council ensure rubbish is removed with no impact on the local environment?
    - how will Council ensure that post-ceremony functions are only held in an authorised function centre not short-term rental accommodation?
    - how will Council ensure that small wedding ceremonies (of less than 50 people) uphold the general provisions as outlined in the Policy? I recommend that Council take bookings for wedding ceremonies of all sizes to ensure the Policy is adhered to and wedding guests are aware of ALL provisions in the Policy.
    - 50 people in a small wedding ceremony still impacts on other users of reserves. The small wedding ceremony should be reduced to 30 people to ensure compatibility with other uses of public reserves.

  • Thanks for the opportunity to review your policy. We are planning to have our wedding in Nov 2016 at Dolphin reserve at Currarong. This reserve is currently not on the list of reserves that can be booked. Can we please request this be reviewed, or is there another way we can book this reserve?
    We are only looking to have the ceremony here, the reception is booked for the progress hall.
    Your consideration of this request is appreciated.
    Thanks for your response. The impression I was under was that this policy was up for review, including the locations as these are listed in the policy. I understand Dolphin Reserve is not on that list as it is not included in that policy document which is up for review. My feedback to council is to include this area in the policy document as part of the review. Is it possible to get an explanation as to why this reserve can't be used, and is there any plans to include an area in Currarong on this list?
    My family has a long standing relationship with the area. I have been traveling to Currarong since i was born, 33 years ago, my father has been coming to Currarong where his parents have owned houses since he was 16 years old. We have had a caravan at the caravan park for the better part of 30 years now. It would mean a lot to my family, and myself, to be married in the area, hence, I'm petitioning that Dolphin reserve, or potentially some other suitable area be added to the approved locations.
    I understand that I have to wait until November before I could officially book a spot. Put the first step is to get the spot onto the list. Could you please reconsider my request to have this added to the approved locations list. If not could you please explain why there is no area identified in Currarong where we could hold our ceremony.

  • Dear Sir, My husband and I reside at 35.Boorawine Tce Callala Bay right opposite the infamous No.36. Since I have been adversely affected by the wedding ceremonies and wedding functions at Callala Bay Boat ramp and Reserve behind No 36.Boorawine Tce Callala Bay I have sent numerous emails and attended all of the Council's meetings in regards to this subject. A petition signed by more than 60 residents has been presented to the Council. All of these residents will support your Draft Policy and shall be very happy as soon as it has been enforced. Yesterday would be just fine!!! The restrictions such as : - NO PA equipment and amplified music, - 25m buffer zone from residential properties and playgrounds. - Public amenities and reserves close to houses should not be used for weddings. All of the above is welcome and acceptable, however the issues of removal of garbage, provision of parking spaces, toilet facilities, drunken brawling and serving of alcohol will have to be successfully resolved and made clearer in the policy.

  • Brilliant sensible letter, I suggest you send a copy to the General Manager, Russ Pigg and our local Councillor, but wait I will forward it on to them for you herewith.

  • As a local Marriage Celebrant in the Milton Ulladulla area I am very concerned about the limited available locations for marriage ceremonies over 50 people to be held in my area. The majority of my business comes from out of town (Canberra, Sydney and various locations inland NSW) who come to this area specifically to get married on the beach. They bring with them guests in the hundreds all of which stay in the area spending their money in local businesses particularly in the accommodation, hospitality and retail industries. My fear is that not having the option of getting married on the beach and by limiting the locations available to get married therefore limiting the number of weddings in the area on any particular day will severely impact the number of visitors coming to the lower Shoalhaven area. I have been the celebrant for over 60 weddings in the Milton Ulladulla area over the last 3 years and a large proportion of those weddings were on the beach or other reserves not mentioned in the draft policies appendix. Only a very small minority of those weddings would have had less than 50 people in attendance. In my experience most wedding parties consist of between 60 to 100 people and therefore the draft policy will, in my opinion rule out most people seeking to have a wedding ceremony on the beach or close to it (apart from the allocated areas). I'm very worried about how this new policy will affect not just mine but a large number of local business in the area. I would love the opportunity to discuss this policy further.

  • Noise constraints should be included in the policy. Suggest DA trigger for any amplified entertainment. The frequency of events at the same location should be carefully managed to protect the amenity of the surrounding residents.

  • As residents backing onto Dolphin Reserve, we have no objection to the use of that location as a venue for private wedding ceremonies. However, we are strongly opposed to the use of the site for the associated wedding receptions. Our objection is based on past experiences associated with such events. Moreover, Currarong is served by three public facilities eminently suited for wedding receptions: Zac's Restaurant, Currarong Progress Hall and Currarong Bowls Club. Thank you for the opportunity to contribute.

  • Gatherings less than 40 should not have to make a submission. More than that yes charge a fee and make it an easy one a flat rate. Most only use it for wedding ceremonies that are over in less than an hour. If you could make it so that they didn't have to put in a DA that would help also. If however they are going to have the reception in a public park, and therefore restrict use to others, I think a DA and reasonable rental fee per hour should apply from time any marquee is set up.

  • In support of our submission, please consider: We are currently experiencing considerable, regular night time disruption in the reserve. Youths play loud music and scream abuse while driving their cars in inappropriate, dangerous and illegal manners. Their language is disgusting and their habits more so. Local households are intimidated, and even frightened, by the people involved and risk personal harm and property retribution if they approach the offenders (as has been the case). The adjoining toilets, trees, rubbish bins have been set fire to and damaged or destroyed on several occasions. We have lost many of the small trees planted by Council. The offenders have driven through bollards on to the grassed reserve, on the beach itself, even attempted to drive up bush tracks and along tr1e nearby cycle/Walking patr1. The gatherings are frequent at the moment. They appear to have become a habitual venue for drinking and drug dealing by the local youths. It is a usual practice for nearby locals to have to clear the area of bottles (and bongs) the day after a particularly bad night. The police are aware of these mass gatherings but take time to respond, and do not observe first-hand the associated drinking/drug activities. We are alarmed that the youths will start to target unattended residences, breaking in, damaging and stealing property. They will become accustomed to when the homes are not occupied. One neighbour is a widow, living alone, and has lived next to the reserve for nearly 30 years. She is now locking herself away at night, never walking outside, and is very apprehensive and unnerved of the noise, language, drug abuse and dangers, as we all are. We, and our neighbours at The Springs, invite tourists to visit and stay. These unsuspecting guests have encountered the behaviour and aggression of the groups and are shocked by it. The common factor is the uncontrolled aggression we incur if we try to intervene, and the seemingly inability of the police to monitor and effectively control the behaviour. We don't want the continuation, or the escalation, of the problem. Please assist us to curb this behaviour, and to even stamp it out. By not authorising private functions after dusk you will give more weight to locals and to the pollee to achieve safety and peace in this beautiful area.

  • I am writing in regards to the Draft policy on Private Functions on Public Reserves specifically applying to Marriage Ceremonies in the Mollymook, Ulladulla area. As a marriage celebrant I conduct a large number of wedding ceremonies in this area, the majority of which are on public beaches. I have noticed in the draft that there are no longer any beach locations in this area allocated for wedding ceremonies. I am really confused as the only sites allocated in the draft are; Mollymook Beach reserve (on the grass) and the Rotary Park in Ulladulla. Does this mean that there will be no option whatsoever for people to get married on the sand in the Mollymook/Ulladulla area at all or any other reserves? What about Dolphin Point, Burrill Lake, Bawley Point, Narrawallee? I am seriously concerned about the affect this will have on my business not to mention the flow on affects for many other businesses (Accommodation, hospitality, retail) in this area. People come from all over NSW to get married here on the beach. They all bring with them hundreds of guests who spend their money in the Shoalhaven. If their only ceremony location options are designated to two parks why would they bother. Availability will also be extremely limited given that there are often 10 or more weddings occuring on the same day in the area during the busiest months of wedding season. I am also confused about General Provisions 4.1 section I) where it states that multiple ceremonies that are facilitated by a wedding planner or celebrant in the same location on the same day are not permitted. Why is that? Given that wedding locations are now limited to two public places it is highly likely that multiple weddings will be held in those locations on the same day. I'm not sure why I would have to turn down a booking due to this clause? I am not the person reserving the location, I am simply there to provide a service to the person who is booking the location. There are so many wonderful locations for ceremonies in the Shoalhaven, particularly here in the Mollymook/Ulladulla area. I understand why some restrictions need to be put in place, but I do think that the current draft is quite extreme and I would love the opportunity to discuss this matter further if at all possible.

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